pelosi come out and attack them all the time if you're trying to get something done that demands an agreement with the other side. bob? >> first of all, charlie, one thing you have to is president obama does not control harry reid or nancy pelosi they are more than anxious -- >> despite how he might wish. >> yeah, in willing to come out and attack republicans on their own spontaneously and with sincere conviction. >> rose: do you think that's helpful? >> no, i think it doesn't work and i think he's got a real problem with that. but i think of very interesting question here is what are his frustrations in the job and it's always hard to get good data on that but i think one of his frustrations is in the first term he inherited that financial crisis and he did a good job. we now have an economy not just on the verge of stability but on the verge of takeoff and you never get credit as president for what you kept from happening which would have been a depression and he knows he spent so much energy on that sand he knows in the midst of it he got health care reform and that's kind of the